(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[90]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[2013 NAMT Calvin Sun (7d) vs. Zi Yang Hu (1p)]PW[Calvin Sun]PB[Zi Yang Hu]WR[7d]BR[1p]DT[2013-08-06]EV[2013 North American Masters Tournament]RO[2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Brian Leahy]C[uriel [1k\]: im guessing the time is in hours?
USGO1 [-\]: 2013 North American Masters Tournament, Round 2, Board 1
USGO1 [-\]: Correct.  Each player has 90 minutes basic time.
AzureSea [4d\]: :D
AzureSea [4d\]: calvin sun!!!
AzureSea [4d\]: i know him!!
Rukis [1k\]: Go Calvin!
AzureSea [4d\]: i once played him irl 
AzureSea [4d\]: i lost by 30 though xD
AzureSea [4d\]: this was...4 yrs ago
USGO1 [-\]: Games will start shortly
blub1 [5k\]: is it about pro contract?
USGO1 [-\]: Begin
frozensoul [-\]: azure
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]C[frozensoul [-\]: we gunna kibitz this 1 or andis?
AzureSea [4d\]: hmm
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;W[dp]C[AzureSea [4d\]: i like andy's style best
AzureSea [4d\]: but calvins a friend
frozensoul [-\]: im in all 4 so doesnt matter to me
AzureSea [4d\]: so idk
frozensoul [-\]: xD
H2SO4 [6d?\]: 30 is pretty good azure
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;B[qp]C[AzureSea [4d\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: lol not rly h2so4
H2SO4 [6d?\]: against 8d it is
AzureSea [4d\]: lol really?
H2SO4 [6d?\]: yes
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;W[dc]
;B[fq]C[AzureSea [4d\]: well then hooray xD
H2SO4 [6d?\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: im rooting for w in both games
H2SO4 [6d?\]: thats sad though cuz im near 7d and im saying that
frozensoul [-\]: same
frozensoul [-\]: xD
Demon [3d\]: my bet is on B this game
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i dont know them
H2SO4 [6d?\]: cant root
frozensoul [-\]: go calvin!
frozensoul [-\]: w00t w00t
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i only usually root if theirs a big difference in rank
frozensoul [-\]: calvin is kbag?
H2SO4 [6d?\]: like 3k vs 9d i always root for 3k
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;W[op]C[H2SO4 [6d?\]: unless 9d is friend
blub1 [5k\]: calvin young and has kgs acc ^^
Manslay [9k?\]: any link to champ table there?
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;B[cn]C[H2SO4 [6d?\]: frozen same as in you lost to 8d by 30 points or same your rooting for w
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;W[dn]
;B[dm]
;W[en]
;B[co]
;W[cp]
;B[gp]C[frozensoul [-\]: same as in rooting for white
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;W[eq]C[Wang1 [1d\]: wo
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;B[er]
;W[fp]
;B[fr]C[frozensoul [-\]: the only person thats beatn me by 30 pts recently was guojuan
frozensoul [-\]: xD
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;W[dr]
;B[cr]C[frozensoul [-\]: and thats only cuz she scares me @.@
AzureSea [4d\]: this is joseki right
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;W[bp]
;B[ds]C[kahin [2k\]: c7?
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;W[cm]
;B[oq]C[frozensoul [-\]: i wonderwhat whites considering here
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;W[pp]C[AzureSea [4d\]: maybe he might q5
AzureSea [4d\]: LOL
frozensoul [-\]: avalanche
AzureSea [4d\]: called it xD
frozensoul [-\]: interesting
frozensoul [-\]: xD
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;B[pq]C[frozensoul [-\]: u said q5
frozensoul [-\]: u faild
frozensoul [-\]: ^_^
H2SO4 [6d?\]: why is it called avalance?
AzureSea [4d\]: lol meant to say q4
AzureSea [4d\]: P:
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;W[qo]C[frozensoul [-\]: cuz it starts at p4
frozensoul [-\]: and tumbles down the mountain to the side
frozensoul [-\]: i dont freakn know
frozensoul [-\]: xD
H2SO4 [6d?\]: pj
H2SO4 [6d?\]: oh*
frozensoul [-\]: why is taisha called taisha?
frozensoul [-\]: what does taisha mean?
AzureSea [4d\]: lol same reason why shimari is called shimari
qp [6k\]: joe taisha, invented it
H2SO4 [6d?\]: lol
frozensoul [-\]: *eats qp*
frozensoul [-\]: -_-
H2SO4 [6d?\]: just like joe seki invented the joseki
frozensoul [-\]: lol
qp [6k\]: see?
ahero [4d\]: oh wow i looked at bot right variation like 10 minutes before this game haha
ahero [4d\]: bot left *
uriel [1k\]: joe seki was the greatest player
uriel [1k\]: it's a shame he left no kifu behind
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;B[rp]C[frozensoul [-\]: lol
Rukis [1k\]: Fujiwara invented Taisha he didnt find a good name so he left it as is. 
H2SO4 [6d?\]: we have a joe sechi though
USSRMan [3d\]: taisha means "thousand variations" i think
frozensoul [-\]: taisha means great tumble
ahero [4d\]: the variation i saw as joseki was
AzureSea [4d\]: o4?
frozensoul [-\]: たいしゃ
ahero [4d\]: after c2
frozensoul [-\]: or
frozensoul [-\]: 退社
frozensoul [-\]: for the kanji
ahero [4d\]: c7 c8 b7 b8 e7 d8 d1 c3 d3 b4 b3 b5 b2 
frozensoul [-\]: i think
AzureSea [4d\]: either o4 or q6
H2SO4 [6d?\]: im japanese... i knew that
AzureSea [4d\]: i think o4's better
USGO1 [-\]: Player ranks corrected.
AzureSea [4d\]: ah
frozensoul [-\]: i want calvin to turn pro
frozensoul [-\]: calvins cool
H2SO4 [6d?\]: wait did they drop rank?
peakoil [3d\]: Taisha means "large slant" according to the wikipedia entry on the Taisha joseki.
Rukis [1k\]: hope he wins in december :D
frozensoul [-\]: no they were ranked higher than the rank scale
frozensoul [-\]: lol
H2SO4 [6d?\]: oh
frozensoul [-\]: great tumble
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;W[np]C[frozensoul [-\]: is more traditional i think
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;B[nq]C[frozensoul [-\]: translation
AzureSea [4d\]: lol knew he'd o4
Jhyn [2k\]: normally people can't be more than 7d in the US though the rating go higher than that
AzureSea [4d\]: think he should extend again?
frozensoul [-\]: iv herd both
H2SO4 [6d?\]: q6 maybe
qp [6k\]: jhyn, thought that was just aga rules?
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;W[qq]C[USGO1 [-\]: AGA caps rank at 7d
AzureSea [4d\]: ah i see why he r3
AzureSea [4d\]: he wants n3 ;)
qp [6k\]: right, but other than that, no reason couldnt be stronger, except aga is who decides rank
USSRMan [3d\]: what if you are stronger than 7d? isnt the cap a pretty big flaw
AzureSea [4d\]: sly move xD
frozensoul [-\]: fiesty
AzureSea [4d\]: guess r2 only move then
AzureSea [4d\]: either way white will get a forcing move
frozensoul [-\]: the ratings can go past
frozensoul [-\]: just not the ranks
blub1 [5k\]: s5 ?
frozensoul [-\]: for example andi liu b4 pro was ranked at 7
frozensoul [-\]: but his rating was 9.2
AzureSea [4d\]: white would gladly n3 in exchange for s5 i think
frozensoul [-\]: suggesting him at 9d strength
Herod [-\]: In this tmt at top all games are even, so doesn't matter what you call the ranks
xedover [?\]: thank you Herod
H2SO4 [6d?\]: ussrman
H2SO4 [6d?\]: what if your stronger than 9d
H2SO4 [6d?\]: same thing
Rukis [1k\]: then your 9d+
frozensoul [-\]: then ur go seigen
frozensoul [-\]: o.o
Rukis [1k\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: ^
H2SO4 [6d?\]: but were all rank crazy people
Rukis [1k\]: not really
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;B[mq]C[H2SO4 [6d?\]: many people are
popocon [10k\]: ho ho
frozensoul [-\]: black agrees with azure
AzureSea [4d\]: :)
frozensoul [-\]: he doesnt like white n3
frozensoul [-\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
qp [6k\]: in chess, top rank is grandmaster, but ratings continue, so not all grandmasters are equal
AzureSea [4d\]: lol i guess i shud be happy lol
USSRMan [3d\]: that is why you should use elo system instead of kyu/dan
frozensoul [-\]: ur right
AzureSea [4d\]: my thought process matches with 1p
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
frozensoul [-\]: all grandmasters lose to my computer
frozensoul [-\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: although ofc not consistently
H2SO4 [6d?\]: ussrman serously did you say that?
H2SO4 [6d?\]: the elo system messed me over
USSRMan [3d\]: how
Herod [-\]: Is anyone paying attention to the game?
frozensoul [-\]: whats the elo system o.o
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;W[nc]C[H2SO4 [6d?\]: you had to start at about 500 and gain your way up
frozensoul [-\]: oh
frozensoul [-\]: like on yahoo
H2SO4 [6d?\]: yes
H2SO4 [6d?\]: like on yahoo
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;B[qf]C[Jhyn [2k\]: go use elo system, just having  nice representation
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i had to play so many games to get to about 2000
AzureSea [4d\]: hmm
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;W[jd]C[H2SO4 [6d?\]: some of them boring
AzureSea [4d\]: d15 coming up
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;B[cf]C[Rukis [1k\]: i dont like white playing this way..
H2SO4 [6d?\]: and then the site reset the ranks
Architect [2k\]: why didnt w play s5 yet?
Jhyn [2k\]: and the scale goes from ~ -3000 to 1000 instead of 500-2800
AzureSea [4d\]: why c14 instead of d15
Rukis [1k\]: he wants to either invade teh top
Rukis [1k\]: or ruin the left
beispiel [9d?\]: c16 c11 threatens b b7 next
AzureSea [4d\]: ah yeah
AzureSea [4d\]: c8
H2SO4 [6d?\]: either way probably different site jhyn
Rukis [1k\]: c17 c16 d16 b17 c18 d15 e16 c15 
H2SO4 [6d?\]: but anyways...
Rukis [1k\]: i assume thats what he wants..
H2SO4 [6d?\]: they just reset the ranks
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
H2SO4 [6d?\]: and now im 500 again
frozensoul [-\]: same principle as kobayashi fuseki
Architect [2k\]: : why didnt w play s5 yet?
frozensoul [-\]: d15 gets punished by k16
frozensoul [-\]: lol
Rukis [1k\]: s5 is bad
Rukis [1k\]: just q6
beispiel [9d?\]: but c12 means B can play d16 etc, get outside influence and then play a shoulder-hit on d13 
Architect [2k\]: s5 is kikashi rukis
blub1 [5k\]: in chess elo they have a youth factor to accelerate faster
AzureSea [4d\]: d15 looks good for some reason
AzureSea [4d\]: but maybe im being dumb...
beispiel [9d?\]: well, it IS the kobayashi fuseki
Snova1987a [10k\]: thank you, about time, 3 admins in here
beispiel [9d?\]: d15 is also possible
Pvp [7k\]: when will the game continue?
Rukis [1k\]: i didnt notice it until frozen pointed it also i find it wierd white having a kobayashi xD
beispiel [9d?\]: d15 b16 c12 is a possibility after that:
AzureSea [4d\]: i like d15 here itself
USGO1 [-\]: Each player has 90 minute's basic time and 5 periods of 60 second byoyomi
Jhyn [2k\]: the game is going on
frozensoul [-\]: d15 is a way
USGO1 [-\]: The clock here does not indicate actual player's clock time.  Only the time control.
frozensoul [-\]: its probably the most common
H2SO4 [6d?\]: these 9d must be patient then
beispiel [9d?\]: d14 (c15 b15) c17 and B f14 g16 d12 c11 e10 c8 looks ok for w
beispiel [9d?\]: but r3 is a terrible loss
Rukis [1k\]: ..
Rukis [1k\]: r3 was a throw in
AzureSea [4d\]: r3 was almost a probe
Snova1987a [10k\]: terrible loss?
AzureSea [4d\]: w aimed at n3
beispiel [9d?\]: also d2 before b4 is a loss
Architect [2k\]: @beispiel what about s5? why didnt w play this?
AzureSea [4d\]: q6 could be sente later
H2SO4 [6d?\]: s5 ruins r3 aji
Snova1987a [10k\]: he threw it in for aji
frozensoul [-\]: also now it doesnt do anything for white really
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;W[cl]C[frozensoul [-\]: theres still aji with his shape if he s5
frozensoul [-\]: so now all it does is fix black
RobertT [-\]: go Calvin!
Rukis [1k\]: O.o
AzureSea [4d\]: hmm
frozensoul [-\]: white is patient
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i guess im gonna jump on the bandwagon
frozensoul [-\]: very calm move
H2SO4 [6d?\]: and say go calvin too
AzureSea [4d\]: guess white doesn't want to lose that territory
AzureSea [4d\]: nor did he want b to get some forcing moves at c8 and b8
Rukis [1k\]: d16 now?
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;B[dd]C[Rukis [1k\]: xD
frozensoul [-\]: gud call rukis
frozensoul [-\]: lol
beispiel [9d?\]: c8 is quite passive - W's aim is to let B self-destruct
H2SO4 [6d?\]: im going to guess theres a good reason why people support him so I'll agree for time being
Architect [2k\]: what d16 means?
gentoo [-\]: 16-sided die
MXHero [4d\]: it means "i need to solidify or that C8 is going to attack me"
wsn [5k\]: can kghin beat b?
beispiel [9d?\]: if w plays s5 it is certainly bad to have played r3 
Rukis [1k\]: probably yes
frozensoul [-\]: i know nothing about this position
AzureSea [4d\]: seems b wants white to c15
frozensoul [-\]: and kghin can beat both players
AzureSea [4d\]: c16*
Rukis [1k\]: i dont either :D
frozensoul [-\]: i think
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;W[cc]C[Rukis [1k\]: but i would e16
Rukis [1k\]: O.o
AzureSea [4d\]: e16 is too loose i'd say
atlbrandon [1d\]: wrong
AzureSea [4d\]: this is a good move its solid
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i would give suggestions but im not reading now
H2SO4 [6d?\]: tired after like 5 or 6 games
Rukis [1k\]: but Azure you know me >.>
atlbrandon [1d\]: hane looks too agressive
AzureSea [4d\]: f16?
Rukis [1k\]: loose or not
Rukis [1k\]: lol
H2SO4 [6d?\]: well more like 17 if you count 5x5
AzureSea [4d\]: lol rukis xD
beispiel [9d?\]: normally, there is a joseki like B start at r4 and w p4, p3 q4 q3 r5 o3 and let is be. Later B may add a move at s4.
USSRMan [3d\]: f16
AzureSea [4d\]: maybe even c11
AzureSea [4d\]: but then e16 looks good...
AzureSea [4d\]: f16 then
royu [5d\]: f16 or e17 
AzureSea [4d\]: e17 too aggressive i think
beispiel [9d?\]: In order to evaluate the result, we have to compare the game with that joseki.
H2SO4 [6d?\]: f16
USSRMan [3d\]: agree with acid
beispiel [9d?\]: e17 e16 e18 is possible
Wang1 [1d\]: w won.
Rukis [1k\]: c11 would leave options open on the top :D
AzureSea [4d\]: lol how can u say that now...
H2SO4 [6d?\]: wang too early i think
AzureSea [4d\]: its move 38 nobody's winning now
H2SO4 [6d?\]: when you try to win in less than 50 moves you end up losing
H2SO4 [6d?\]: thats a fact
Rukis [1k\]: you kidding? white capture c6 obvious he is winning xD
frozensoul [-\]: lies
qp [6k\]: in kibitz, claiming a winner by move 38 is considered conservative prediction
beispiel [9d?\]: I think B is leading slightly
frozensoul [-\]: i beat a 5d in 40
frozensoul [-\]: o.o
H2SO4 [6d?\]: o.o
Rukis [1k\]: i believe that
H2SO4 [6d?\]: 9x9?
frozensoul [-\]: 19x19
frozensoul [-\]: xD
H2SO4 [6d?\]: or 19x19
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;B[ec]C[AzureSea [4d\]: hmm
AzureSea [4d\]: e17
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i guess if you play normal
Rukis [1k\]: cut!
H2SO4 [6d?\]: and not try to win in 50 its possible
AzureSea [4d\]: i think we're misreading the cut
beispiel [9d?\]: e16 e18 d15 c16 c15 b16 b15 e15 f16 b17 looks reasonable
H2SO4 [6d?\]: but if you wanna win quick you misread and overplay
frozensoul [-\]: i do that neway
H2SO4 [6d?\]: e16
frozensoul [-\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: white f17 now?
MXHero [4d\]: lol
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i find in personal experience
H2SO4 [6d?\]: the more impatient you are the more you overplay
Rukis [1k\]: or you lose to much :D
H2SO4 [6d?\]: yes that rukis
qp [6k\]: so many blitz games suggest many impatient players
beispiel [9d?\]: You can be impatient to be defensive
AzureSea [4d\]: hmm no f17 is bad
AzureSea [4d\]: well not bad
H2SO4 [6d?\]: qp xD
blub1 [5k\]: cut think later
beispiel [9d?\]: but aggressive and overplay is a little different.
AzureSea [4d\]: f17 or e16
H2SO4 [6d?\]: im both
Snova1987a [10k\]: cut and think later? xD
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;W[ed]C[H2SO4 [6d?\]: e16
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;B[eb]C[AzureSea [4d\]: e16 yup
beispiel [9d?\]: only moves
AzureSea [4d\]: w cud give up the corner
AzureSea [4d\]: to get the left side
USSRMan [3d\]: white likes complicated games
H2SO4 [6d?\]: or he could play e18 like most of my opponent
beispiel [9d?\]: but W can play b15 now - however he won't get a good result
AzureSea [4d\]: b15 isnt good imo
VictorNiMe [7k\]: is the time 1 hour or 1 minute left
VictorNiMe [7k\]: ??
AzureSea [4d\]: d15 seems only good move here
H2SO4 [6d?\]: time is false victor
H2SO4 [6d?\]: not the only moves imo
beispiel [9d?\]: d15 c16 c15 b16 b15 has to happen
VictorNiMe [7k\]: then why do they put it??
H2SO4 [6d?\]: can tenuki can e18 as well
USGO1 [-\]: Each player has 90 minute's basic time and 5 periods of 60 second byoyomi
AzureSea [4d\]: i agree, beispiel
beispiel [9d?\]: and then B cuts at e15 or not
AzureSea [4d\]: d15 only move
VictorNiMe [7k\]: ok
USGO1 [-\]: The clock here does not indicate actual player's clock time.  Only the time control.
VictorNiMe [7k\]: ok
blub1 [5k\]: corner still lives after f16?
beispiel [9d?\]: even though he doesn't have a ladder breaker, cutting might be good
WuHoUnited [1k\]: cutting where?
AzureSea [4d\]: e15
Wang1 [1d\]: B won because of that move.
AzureSea [4d\]: d15 c16 c15 b16 b15 
AzureSea [4d\]: not really wang
WuHoUnited [1k\]: thanks, what's what i thought, just not sure
USGO1 [-\]: white has ~ 71 minutes, black has 79.
beispiel [9d?\]: BTW, the way B makes sabaki on the left is by playing a frontal nose tesuji at c9 
AzureSea [4d\]: oh nice move
H2SO4 [6d?\]: is usgo1 a bot
H2SO4 [6d?\]: or a human?
Rukis [1k\]: HUman....
AzureSea [4d\]: human...
H2SO4 [6d?\]: oh
frozensoul [-\]: an alien o.o
USGO1 [-\]: bots don't read clocks:)
Rukis [1k\]: Hes HU-man
Rukis [1k\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: yet
H2SO4 [6d?\]: lol i thought ive been talking to a bot
VictorNiMe [7k\]: hhaha
AzureSea [4d\]: ...
AzureSea [4d\]: are u serious? xD
H2SO4 [6d?\]: yes
USGO1 [-\]: :)
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i thought all the broadcasters are bots
Rukis [1k\]: Day9 is not a bot!
beispiel [9d?\]: Not all bots are equal, some of them are hu-MAN.
qp [6k\]: only marv albert is bot
gentoo [-\]: USGO19D
Rukis [1k\]: lol
VictorNiMe [7k\]: from were do most of these pro player come from?
Jhyn [2k\]: you failed your turing test, USGO1
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
Hikky [?\]: hahaha
MarcoRosso [4k\]: lol
H2SO4 [6d?\]: or ManyFacesofUSGO
AzureSea [4d\]: what's white thinking so much about
frozensoul [-\]: who knows
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i thhink many faces is better than usgo19d
Jhyn [2k\]: wondering whether his opponent is a bot
frozensoul [-\]: perhaps what he will eat later?
MXHero [4d\]: deciding between F16 and F17 ,maybe?
H2SO4 [6d?\]: name doesnt match
beispiel [9d?\]: he is thinking about b15 c16 b16 b17 b18 c18 a17 d18 b17 d14 and then what??
H2SO4 [6d?\]: i prefer f16 mxhero
AzureSea [4d\]: f16 isnt good then b gets c16
frozensoul [-\]: ^
myrtle [4d\]: are these games playe really late at night?
H2SO4 [6d?\]: f17 seems weak
beispiel [9d?\]: unfortunately, W can only playe f16 but B h17 is so alive as you can imagine
USGO1 [-\]: games start at 7pm local time.
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
myrtle [4d\]: oh not that bad
beispiel [9d?\]: then w b14 c12 and w f13 or so
qp [6k\]: onlu 7:30pm on west coast
AzureSea [4d\]: its 10:37 pm here
H2SO4 [6d?\]: california?
Wang1 [1d\]: who's beispiel?
AzureSea [4d\]: 3 hours ahead here in new jersey
qp [6k\]: seattle
frozensoul [-\]: 1037 for me too
frozensoul [-\]: xD
beispiel [9d?\]: That's me, Wang
Architect [2k\]: beispiel is lee sedol
Wang1 [1d\]: Who are you?
myrtle [4d\]: 1037 for me too, am
USGO1 [-\]: Tacoma, Washington, at the US Go Congress.
beispiel [9d?\]: I am just a guy
iamor [?\]: 4:37 am for me :)
Hikky [?\]: and here I thought you were an example in german
USGO1 [-\]: Near Seattle
Hikky [?\]: serves me for thinking.
zhou901108 [3d\]:  is d15 a good move for w here?
beispiel [9d?\]: I won't make an example of you, Hikky
frozensoul [-\]: d15 is what we think probably should happen
frozensoul [-\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
Hikky [?\]:  : ) *tips hat*
AzureSea [4d\]: it has to happen >:o
Rukis [1k\]: but d15 wont happen... lol
Rukis [1k\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: watch w play like q6 lol
Architect [2k\]: beispiel is being modest... he is lee sedol
frozensoul [-\]: beispiel is sai incarnated
ahero [4d\]: d15 looks too nice to b
zhou901108 [3d\]: but lee sedol not so modest though..
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;W[bd]C[beispiel [9d?\]: I will probably be seeing Lee Sedol tomorro
AzureSea [4d\]: o.o
beispiel [9d?\]: tomorrow
SColbert [4d\]: d15 is par
Rukis [1k\]: told you :SD
Snova1987a [10k\]: then leesedol has suddenly learned English
WuHoUnited [1k\]: we all lose
Rukis [1k\]: :D
AzureSea [4d\]: b16...
MXHero [4d\]: whaat
Rukis [1k\]: d15 now
Rukis [1k\]: :D
iamor [?\]: I like it :)
frozensoul [-\]: interesting
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;B[de]C[Rukis [1k\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: lol it works :o
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
Architect [2k\]: Beispiel, dont ask yourself by your own name
frozensoul [-\]: ilya used a similar type of move
beispiel [9d?\]: this give B a host of opportunities
AzureSea [4d\]: now white f16?
Hikky [?\]: doesn't W need to live on the inside now?  can W afford to pull E16 out?
H2SO4 [6d?\]: is ilya roln
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;W[fd]
;B[gc]C[AzureSea [4d\]: yup
Hikky [?\]: guess we'll find out
frozensoul [-\]: yea
Drakemite [7d\]: lol b takes like no time to think
AzureSea [4d\]: g16 or b14
beispiel [9d?\]: Yes Ilya is Roln
WuHoUnited [1k\]: when will yang and andy play each other?
H2SO4 [6d?\]: he hasnt been on kgs for a while
Drakemite [7d\]: which yang?
frozensoul [-\]: cuz of euro go congress
frozensoul [-\]: lol
beispiel [9d?\]: he is playing in the European championship
Rukis [1k\]: Black
WuHoUnited [1k\]: this yang
Drakemite [7d\]: oh
Rukis [1k\]: Calvin is white
zhou901108 [3d\]: c15 
beispiel [9d?\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC2013_main.html
pozz [?\]: jiangning and andew redmond round 2 who won?
SColbert [4d\]: b 18
AzureSea [4d\]: b14
]
;W[bf]C[Rukis [1k\]: I dont see this working well for white
frozensoul [-\]: *high fives azure*
AzureSea [4d\]: called it :)
Rukis [1k\]: f14 
AzureSea [4d\]: *high fives*
zhou901108 [3d\]: this is like lottery lol
AzureSea [4d\]: now g16
jknkj: ya who won redmond between jianing and andrew?
xedover [?\]: I believe redom round two is tomorrow
AzureSea [4d\]: h15 looks nice too
xedover [?\]: *redmond
zhou901108 [3d\]: j16
WuHoUnited [1k\]: h15 seems kind of weird
AzureSea [4d\]: g16 or h15 is my bet
Rukis [1k\]: f14 is mine
zhou901108 [3d\]: u can't have 2.:P
AzureSea [4d\]: i dont think b would like having to go at b13
AzureSea [4d\]: okay g16 then lol
AzureSea [4d\]: watch it be h15 -_-
ahero [4d\]: g16
zhou901108 [3d\]: j16 holds strong
guapo [2k\]: what's the local time?
AzureSea [4d\]: 7:44 pm
TheRay [4k\]: whats artems account here in kgs?
Petrosian [3k?\]: What about g15?
frozensoul [-\]: artem92
]
;B[bg]C[TheRay [4k\]: ty
]
;W[be]
;B[ge]C[Petrosian [3k?\]: boo yah
AzureSea [4d\]: ah
Rukis [1k\]: ooo
AzureSea [4d\]: lol i guess i was half right
]
;W[ef]C[AzureSea [4d\]: knew he'd attack f16 stones at least
]
;B[ee]
;W[fe]
;B[ff]
;W[gf]C[beispiel [9d?\]: this is bad for W
]
;B[fg]
;W[gd]
;B[hd]
;W[he]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: squeezy
]
;B[fc]
;W[ge]C[beispiel [9d?\]: what was/is he thinking
AzureSea [4d\]: j17
WuHoUnited [1k\]: k18 ?
zhou901108 [3d\]: j16
zhou901108 [3d\]: finally
Thew [2d\]: k17 rather
Petrosian [3k?\]: j15?
beispiel [9d?\]: j16 j15 k18 is possible
zhou901108 [3d\]: come on j16
AzureSea [4d\]: j17 :O
Merlot [1k\]: K18
royu [5d\]: i like this result for w
Petrosian [3k?\]: j15 is only one that cuts?
Thew [2d\]: k18 is the normal shape move
beispiel [9d?\]: k18 would be normal but then h17 h18 j17 makes W very thick in the center in sente - next w d13 is severe
Thew [2d\]: maybe a bit slack though
beispiel [9d?\]: but actually, the W corner is still not alive
myrtle [4d\]: c13 enough aji for now tho
zhou901108 [3d\]: is there a way make it alive in sente with ajis around b13?
Rukis [1k\]: well... c13 b18 is miai
AzureSea [4d\]: lol yeah w isnt a live
beispiel [9d?\]: c13 is possible later
]
;B[id]
;W[ie]
;B[jc]C[beispiel [9d?\]: but first B needs to play j16 j15 k18 or k17 l17 j18 
zhou901108 [3d\]: oh yeah
AzureSea [4d\]: can w double hane?
SColbert [4d\]: battle for sente
myrtle [4d\]: yes
]
;W[kc]C[AzureSea [4d\]: or does that leave lots of weaknesses
beispiel [9d?\]: yes double hane only
]
;B[jb]C[AzureSea [4d\]: okay
AzureSea [4d\]: l18
beispiel [9d?\]: k18 should be at j18 
AzureSea [4d\]: yeah
AzureSea [4d\]: cuz now l18 is sente
beispiel [9d?\]: now w l18 becomes sente too
AzureSea [4d\]: ^
guapo [2k\]: he must have thought that
myrtle [4d\]: l18 might be sente with j18 too
myrtle [4d\]: eg j18 k18 j17 l18 
zhou901108 [3d\]: h17
zhou901108 [3d\]: first
Thew [2d\]: if this was my game I would be like "oh, crap, too complicated... let's pray" =p
beispiel [9d?\]: yes, but k18 at j18, then W k18 j17 l16  and B has sente
SColbert [4d\]: l18 not necessarily sente
AzureSea [4d\]: yeah it is
beispiel [9d?\]: now w l18 h18 k19 j18 h12 maybe
MXHero [4d\]: threatens H17 so it's sente
SColbert [4d\]: h17 hi1
myrtle [4d\]: mx speaks the trth
SColbert [4d\]: h18
Thew [2d\]: h12?! protecting the cut seems better
beispiel [9d?\]: Truth is not the issue
myrtle [4d\]: h17 h18 too pitiful
SColbert [4d\]: give up two stones
beispiel [9d?\]: never 
MXHero [4d\]: those stones are so key, it's insane
MXHero [4d\]: like, K15 cut, and stuff
iamor [?\]: hard for white :p
zhou901108 [3d\]: h17 and h18 is like resign..
beispiel [9d?\]: no way before H3ll freezes over
Thew [2d\]: the stuff is what counts =p
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
MXHero [4d\]: hehe yes
]
;W[eg]C[Thew [2d\]: yee haw
zhou901108 [3d\]: my eyes..
]
;B[eh]C[beispiel [9d?\]: ok....
Thew [2d\]: attack mode
]
;W[fh]
;B[gg]
;W[dh]
;B[ei]C[beispiel [9d?\]: o:O
]
;W[dg]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: black protect c13?
AzureSea [4d\]: o.o
kurii [3d\]: huhy
kurii [3d\]: what
WuHoUnited [1k\]: i guess not
beispiel [9d?\]: k15 
]
;B[di]C[Thew [2d\]: k15?
myrtle [4d\]: this is bold...
MXHero [4d\]: wow what is happening, and/or i love this
]
;W[ch]C[AzureSea [4d\]: umm
AzureSea [4d\]: k15??
AzureSea [4d\]: b11 here
Thew [2d\]: ladder without opponent :p
myrtle [4d\]: i hope k15 gets answered with j14
beispiel [9d?\]: I am not sure about d11 because it makes a b move around e10 less sente
AzureSea [4d\]: b11 kills d13 stones write
]
;B[je]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: white gonna get big right side i guess
beispiel [9d?\]: B must play k15 
Merlot [1k\]: b in trouble
myrtle [4d\]: j14 would make my day
AzureSea [4d\]: w in trouble too
beispiel [9d?\]: So, i don't see how W can play now?
AzureSea [4d\]: h13 i guess
beispiel [9d?\]: h13 g12 h12 g11 h11 g10 l16 ?
SColbert [4d\]: b12 work?
Pvp [7k\]: its a trade?
]
;W[hg]
;B[gh]C[AzureSea [4d\]: called it :P
beispiel [9d?\]: hardly a trade
AzureSea [4d\]: h12 now?
royu [5d\]: i'm curious, what if a player has an uncontrollable sneeze and it sends all the stones flying?
myrtle [4d\]: l16 now?
beispiel [9d?\]: W l16 is proper style, but that's out of fashion, right now
Pvp [7k\]: u just turn away when u do
WuHoUnited [1k\]: then that player has made an illegal move and loses
Petrosian [3k?\]: I think you forefit
guapo [2k\]: or cover your mouth, plus then would remember the position
]
;W[hh]
;B[gi]
;W[hi]C[beispiel [9d?\]: then, royu, the game has to be replayed as the players remember it.
AzureSea [4d\]: which is bigger l16 or b11
swatcat489 [2d?\]: inappropriate question lol
royu [5d\]: by AGA rules, that's ok? to setup board again
Pvp [7k\]: nice sente by white
beispiel [9d?\]: Even in pro games, it happens occasionally - there is hardly ever a dispute
myrtle [4d\]: someone calls your mum and says you aren't to be given any warm mlk tonight
Manslay [9k?\]: what about players time then?
Manslay [9k?\]: is it reset?
AzureSea [4d\]: b12* sorry
Rukis [1k\]: no
zhou901108 [3d\]: l16 so big
Petrosian [3k?\]: d8
beispiel [9d?\]: Well, then you just drink mlk at natural body temperature.
swatcat489 [2d?\]: haha
swatcat489 [2d?\]: let
swatcat489 [2d?\]: lets get back to the board pls
RayTomes [1d\]: does B b12 work?
beispiel [9d?\]: b12 c11 c10 is not a serious issue now, but if B plays h10 it becomes one
AzureSea [4d\]: b12 works
myrtle [4d\]: l16 shiny imo
guapo [2k\]: b11?
SColbert [4d\]: w has b10 counter to b12
AzureSea [4d\]: b11 wont work
MXHero [4d\]: ohhhh wait b12 doesn't work
beispiel [9d?\]: so h10 g10 f11 and then w g9 b12 c11 c10 b10 b11 d10 c9 e10 and B loses everything
AzureSea [4d\]: b11 c16 
beispiel [9d?\]: How can B combine that f11 is sente because of b12 and the fact that he wants to play h10 ?
AzureSea [4d\]: if b can save both groups then he will win this game
beispiel [9d?\]: hmmm, if b plays g10, the threat at b12 still doesn't work
regigigas [5d\]: h10
SColbert [4d\]: w b10 counter is problem
Hikky [?\]: I detect a hint of truthiness in your statement
AzureSea [4d\]: b12
beispiel [9d?\]: what about h10 g10 f11 j10 k12 c9 ? or instead of c9, just c11 b12 b11 a13 c9 ?
RayTomes [1d\]: I don't see how B loses after b12 c11 c10 b10 b11 d10 c9 e10
]
;B[ci]C[beispiel [9d?\]: g10 
AzureSea [4d\]: oh close xD
beispiel [9d?\]: no need to think
AzureSea [4d\]: haha
regigigas [5d\]: amazing move, genius!
regigigas [5d\]: would never have thought have g10 myself
regigigas [5d\]: in fact, you must be a 9d
regigigas [5d\]: !
MXHero [4d\]: g10 is a very good move
SColbert [4d\]: b give up
Petrosian [3k?\]: Why is c11 better than b12?
SColbert [4d\]: 5 stones in center
regigigas [5d\]: yes, only a 9d could have seen it
]
;W[gj]
;B[fi]C[regigigas [5d\]: thanks beispiel!
]
;W[bh]C[guapo [2k\]: because he just played iot
AzureSea [4d\]: hm
AzureSea [4d\]: b11
Petrosian [3k?\]: a13?
]
;B[kd]C[beispiel [9d?\]: h10 of course
regigigas [5d\]: another tough move, azuresea
regigigas [5d\]: glad you could see it for us
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
Thew [2d\]: good joke regigigas... >.<
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
SColbert [4d\]: b has balls
regigigas [5d\]: =)
MXHero [4d\]: b just wants this, yaaa cool
beispiel [9d?\]: wow
BeefCake [4d\]: b has reading ability
beispiel [9d?\]: well b11 a13 b9 lives
SColbert [4d\]: id go with l16 too
saspurs [2d\]: if b lives, game over?
regigigas [5d\]: b has basic sense
guapo [2k\]: did you guys see today's b game earlier?
BeefCake [4d\]: b11 sente, so w needs to play below to have any hope to kill
MXHero [4d\]: no, how was it, guapo?
myrtle [4d\]: just h9 for now?
regigigas [5d\]: no, no, BeefCake, could you please explain it more clearly?
AzureSea [4d\]: can w attack c11 group
SColbert [4d\]: if b lives in w area of influence then b wins
AzureSea [4d\]: b10 maybe
guapo [2k\]: at the end he read a semidori in like a second, i was really impressed
regigigas [5d\]: I'm afraid that us low-ranked players can't comprehend your supreme analysis
Thew [2d\]: someone kick regigigas please.....
MXHero [4d\]: omg crankiest 5d on the planet
regigigas [5d\]: hahahah
frozensoul [-\]: lol
kahin [2k\]: e9?
USGO1 [-\]: White has 55 minutes and black 67 minutes basic time left
indianayk [4d\]: wasn't L16 bigger than b12?
frozensoul [-\]: *eats regigigas* o.o
Hikky [?\]: lol
beispiel [9d?\]: w wants to kill but how?
myrtle [4d\]: nomnom
AzureSea [4d\]: b10 works, bneispiel?
Hikky [?\]: somebody needs to go back into their pokeball ... ;(
myrtle [4d\]: kill seems overplay imo
beispiel [9d?\]: if c9 to kill h10 g9 j11 
myrtle [4d\]: h9 w live then q17 still a game
MXHero [4d\]: w H10 is my guess
rayheart [1d\]: b11 sente so its imposible to kill
USGO1 [-\]: Black's name corrected
myrtle [4d\]: hoho usgo2 will use that name error to try anf fight his way back to board 1, watch out :-)
beispiel [9d?\]: did we forget to mention at b a13 a12 b11 c13 is possible? That makes b a11 sente
guapo [2k\]: lol
regigigas [5d\]: a11 sente anyways........
beispiel [9d?\]: no
beispiel [9d?\]: b11 a13 
regigigas [5d\]: ok
AzureSea [4d\]: b10 :D
SColbert [4d\]: b a13 first?
beispiel [9d?\]: during my first analysis,  didn't catch b a13 
AzureSea [4d\]: b10 b10 b10
regigigas [5d\]: a13, b11
SColbert [4d\]: b11 push
SColbert [4d\]: then cut
iamor [?\]: w can give up now :p
SColbert [4d\]: w shortage of lib
]
;W[qc]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]C[AzureSea [4d\]: r17 o.o
]
;W[qb]
;B[oc]
;W[re]C[AzureSea [4d\]: guess w doesn't like b's top side atm
myrtle [4d\]: wow not even defned h10 in sente
]
;B[rf]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]
;W[qd]
;B[hj]C[regigigas [5d\]: ..
myrtle [4d\]: b so happy i think
Petrosian [3k?\]: yeah, why did w go for r17?
beispiel [9d?\]: So in retrospect I have decided to believe that h12 should just simply have been at l16 -, but before e13, he should have exchanged l18 h18 k19 j18 
regigigas [5d\]: game is over
]
;W[ji]
;B[ij]C[AzureSea [4d\]: b ahead
regigigas [5d\]: significantly
beispiel [9d?\]: r17 is much too early and probably wrong too
SColbert [4d\]: azure hedges
myrtle [4d\]: regigigas you have other acct with very similar name?
beispiel [9d?\]: maybe better at q17 r17 r18 
]
;W[jg]C[regigigas [5d\]: define "similar"
]
;B[bi]
;W[ag]C[SColbert [4d\]: if w turns around azure can't be blamed
myrtle [4d\]: one less "i"?
AzureSea [4d\]: b11 lol
regigigas [5d\]: no
AzureSea [4d\]: scolbert haha
regigigas [5d\]: loosen your definition much more and maybe
]
;B[og]C[regigigas [5d\]: this move
beispiel [9d?\]: but as you can see l18 h18 exchange would have changed his prospectives for o17 EVEN if he had chosen this erroneous follow-up
AzureSea [4d\]: i was thinking r10 not p14
AzureSea [4d\]: but i guess this also has  a better attack on j15 group
Rukis [1k\]: g9 
SColbert [4d\]: h9
Rukis [1k\]: i would g9 :o
squalleon2 [6k\]: Why is it always 7d vs 1p?
AzureSea [4d\]: g9
Rukis [1k\]: ?
SColbert [4d\]: g9
Rukis [1k\]: Squalleon
kahin [2k\]: s5
squalleon2 [6k\]: ?
myrtle [4d\]: 7d 1p almost the same sometimes
beispiel [9d?\]: b k10 and g9 would be good moves too
Rukis [1k\]: this is NAMT not US open
USSRMan [3d\]: i think black leads
USSRMan [3d\]: by 10
jknkj: 7d only equal to 1p sometimes in asia
jknkj: in america 7d not even close to 1p
squalleon2 [6k\]: Yeah but every game Ive seen in this congress so far is the same
Rukis [1k\]: jknkj
emc2 [3d\]: r7
MXHero [4d\]: 7d is the highest AGA rank now, isn't it?
squalleon2 [6k\]: oh
SColbert [4d\]: lol
beispiel [9d?\]: therefore w g9 and b9 and k10 looks good but then W has not enough territory
jknkj: 9d is highest
Rukis [1k\]: no
SColbert [4d\]: board 1 is the top board
]
;W[qj]C[Rukis [1k\]: 7d is..
squalleon2 [6k\]: Isnt America starting pro rankings though?
]
;B[ro]C[Rukis [1k\]: the cap is on 7d
AzureSea [4d\]: lol  r10 xD
]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]
;W[qm]C[SColbert [4d\]: so 1p is always featured
]
;B[rm]C[AzureSea [4d\]: psychic
SColbert [4d\]: there are like three of them
jknkj: 9d is highest in aga, but when broadcasting, they make everyone 7d or above 7d
Rukis [1k\]: ...
]
;W[ql]C[beispiel [9d?\]: IF W is going to play r10 anyway, he should exchange s5 s3 r10 
]
;B[mp]C[USSRMan [3d\]: black wins
emc2 [3d\]: r10 is bad?
RobertT [-\]: 7d is highest in aga
Wang1 [1d\]: How can w win thins game?
jknkj: cuz 7d is highest in asia, and aga trys to make it reasoanble
MXHero [4d\]: oh N4 is so huge
AzureSea [4d\]: yes
AzureSea [4d\]: huge move
xong551: easy game for b
Harbinger [4k\]: resign soon me thinks, or massive overplay
jknkj: if 7d is highest in aga then why are ppl 9d?
AzureSea [4d\]: waiting on g9 though
AzureSea [4d\]: g9 big sente
RobertT [-\]: they aren't 9d
myrtle [4d\]: 7d is highest "rank", 9d is highest "rating"
xedover [?\]: that's their "elo" rating
RobertT [-\]: 9d isnt even highest rating
myrtle [4d\]: maybe 10-11d? lol
beispiel [9d?\]: B simply wins now
squalleon2 [6k\]: 9p :O
SColbert [4d\]: just drop the d 
USSRMan [3d\]: what is white's best plan?
guapo [2k\]: no limit i think
Wang1 [1d\]: 10d is the highest.
myrtle [4d\]: or infinite d is highest rating i suppose
RobertT [-\]: the ranks only go up to 7d but anying 7.00+ is considered 7d
beispiel [9d?\]: 10d is a title
xedover [?\]: let's focus on the game please
SColbert [4d\]: XXX 9.35847
jknkj: so basically everyone who is 7d or above in rating are automatically 7d in terms of rank?
Thew [2d\]: mt everest is the highest
RobertT [-\]: so 10.3 rating like the highest player is 7d
RobertT [-\]: yes
myrtle [4d\]: yes jknkj
jknkj: ah ic
MXHero [4d\]: nevermind, gosh i didn't mean to start this insanity :)
myrtle [4d\]: hence 7d 1p are sometimes about the same :p
beispiel [9d?\]: w needs to invade at j4 
squalleon2 [6k\]: But 9p is the highest in the world right?
Thew [2d\]: lol
RobertT [-\]: yes, 9p is highest pro rank
jknkj: but i dont htink anyone lower than 9d can be euqal to hu ziyang
myrtle [4d\]: holding a world title is highest rank :)
MXHero [4d\]: squalleon, unless you win a special tournament and then you're 10p
Thew [2d\]: honorary jyudan
]
;W[le]C[myrtle [4d\]: right jknkj
squalleon2 [6k\]: shhh myrtle thats too logical
emc2 [3d\]: it would be better if R10 were at S5
lxw3d: w hard to win
SColbert [4d\]: goseigen is 13d
beispiel [9d?\]: m15 ??
squalleon2 [6k\]: MXHero challenge accepted
beispiel [9d?\]: B will resist
Wang1 [1d\]: Who's the strongest player in the world today?
SColbert [4d\]: can't be that
guapo [2k\]: me
Thew [2d\]: I am
myrtle [4d\]: maybe chen yaoye?
squalleon2 [6k\]: ME too
RobertT [-\]: lee sedol still holds the #1 rank
jknkj: strongest is fan tingyu
Harbinger [4k\]: huang longshi was 13p, go seigen was 9p ;)
USSRMan [3d\]: white trying to use o18 aji maybe
squalleon2 [6k\]: All 3 of us
MXHero [4d\]: and if Spinal Tap ever won that tournament, they would of course be 11p
beispiel [9d?\]: not chen
iamor [?\]: M15??
BeefCake [4d\]: i was about to say the same thing myrtle
guapo [2k\]: i said it first
]
;B[kg]C[RobertT [-\]: Lee Sedol is still highest based off tournament record
squalleon2 [6k\]: So your the best top player
myrtle [4d\]: lee changho more titles :p
squalleon2 [6k\]: But im still the top player
BeefCake [4d\]: i saw new world ranking from cyberoro, and sedol fell to #9
USSRMan [3d\]: isnt l14 more solid than this move?
squalleon2 [6k\]: Along with you
beispiel [9d?\]: l13 sounds like a good bet
BeefCake [4d\]: shi yue was #1
emc2 [3d\]: Li Chang Hao is the highest
RobertT [-\]: 2nd is Park Junghwan then all the chinese from 3rd-15th lol
myrtle [4d\]: shi yue is strong, but not the best imo
Wang1 [1d\]: ya, Lee changho more titles.
RobertT [-\]: I didnt say by how many titles they hold
RobertT [-\]: their current tournament record
myrtle [4d\]: park junghwan can be considered best now too i think
guapo [2k\]: oh look l13!
dkjk: right now, fantingyu or park junghwan are at the top
myrtle [4d\]: l13 using w's lib shortage
BeefCake [4d\]: m15 losing move?
]
;W[mg]C[RobertT [-\]: fan tingyu is still only around 10th
RobertT [-\]: he is getting stronger though
squalleon2 [6k\]: Why does the internet say Li Change Hao is 9d?
myrtle [4d\]: fan tingyu is maybe strongest prospect
squalleon2 [6k\]: Wouldnt he be 9p?
beispiel [9d?\]: w is creative but this is not really gonna work
RobertT [-\]: fan tingyu is part of the young tiger group in china
guapo [2k\]: USGO1 isnt a big talker
knjh: but fan tingtu is younf
Harbinger [4k\]: 9d is still 9p, 9p just makes it easier to differentiate between the amature and pro ranks lol
RobertT [-\]: rising young stars
squalleon2 [6k\]: Ok lol
beispiel [9d?\]: whatever
]
;B[jf]C[myrtle [4d\]: l12
knjh: b4 go is old people's world in japan, not its only about youngsters
USGO1 [-\]: USGO1 is pretty busy
emc2 [3d\]: painful for white
USSRMan [3d\]: guys, start focusing on the game or the mods will yell at us
beispiel [9d?\]: k12 looks like the only move now
AzureSea [4d\]: k12 only move
Petrosian [3k?\]: l12 h13
myrtle [4d\]: screw those 8 stones i dontwant them, l12
]
;W[jh]C[beispiel [9d?\]: W must be careful to always keep more than 3 libs
USSRMan [3d\]: those 8 stones are killing 5 stones
beispiel [9d?\]: b should play j14 or not?
guapo [2k\]: yes
uhjh: m15 is no sense
beispiel [9d?\]: because otherwise W can be alive in one move
guapo [2k\]: but he wont
SColbert [4d\]: j14 free
Kanin [-\]: m11
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;B[mf]C[RobertT [-\]: thsoe 8 stones are worth like 35 points
RobertT [-\]: lol
AzureSea [4d\]: j14 is big
gentoo [-\]: expected j14 before k14
RobertT [-\]: or more
myrtle [4d\]: oh yes i forgot about c14 group lol
beispiel [9d?\]: it's not free - it is a HUGE ko threat, SColbert
USSRMan [3d\]: white alive already
frozensoul [-\]: azure
Wang1 [1d\]: w stones are quite heavy.
Thew [2d\]: yeah, 50-ish maybe
frozensoul [-\]: u got skype o.o?
AzureSea [4d\]: nope
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
frozensoul [-\]: T.T
frozensoul [-\]: get1!
frozensoul [-\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
AzureSea [4d\]: oh ill be back on phone
AzureSea [4d\]: later
beispiel [9d?\]: m14 m13 n12 n15 doesn't work for w
RobertT [-\]: frozen I'll skype  you tomorrow from go congress and rub it in your face
Megalodon [9d\]: hi beispiel, game?
frozensoul [-\]: ok
frozensoul [-\]: lol
SColbert [4d\]: j14 is best left unplayed
frozensoul [-\]: i rlly dont care tht ur there robert xD
Wang1 [1d\]: wow
SColbert [4d\]: save 1 lib
guapo [2k\]: a challenge!
beispiel [9d?\]: o14 o13 m14 n12 m13 m12 l12 l14 o12 and B escapes at n10 
Wang1 [1d\]: 9d vs 9d?
frozensoul [-\]: ill just go next year and win it all <#
myrtle [4d\]: hmm i figured megalodon was american, but he isnt at congress 0_o
guapo [2k\]: there is a saying he is zchen
beispiel [9d?\]: so basically m15 is a lost cause
SColbert [4d\]: whos strongest american american player
USSRMan [3d\]: andy liu
myrtle [4d\]: redmond
Harbinger [4k\]: andy liu
gentoo [-\]: bbw
RobertT [-\]: redmond yep
USSRMan [3d\]: redmond is japanese
frozensoul [-\]: redmond
pitabread [3k\]: redmond technically 
Snova1987a [10k\]: tartrate
SColbert [4d\]: american american 
pitabread [3k\]: well andy is asian american
SColbert [4d\]: not american chinese
frozensoul [-\]: idk if redmond is better than janice
frozensoul [-\]: in her prime
beispiel [9d?\]: however, W has some aji o16 and o18 - maybe he is suicidal anyway...
frozensoul [-\]: idk
pitabread [3k\]: so redmond
RobertT [-\]: redmond u.s. born and semi raised ;p
Megalodon [9d\]: game?
SColbert [4d\]: besides redmond
frozensoul [-\]: janice
frozensoul [-\]: kim
pitabread [3k\]: BOZULICH
SColbert [4d\]: gen Y
Wang1 [1d\]: redmond is north korean.
USGO1 [-\]: W: 39 minutes; B: 64 minutes remaining
RobertT [-\]: james kerwin
SColbert [4d\]: Gen Y player
beispiel [9d?\]: Redmond came to Japan at the age of 14
Megalodon [9d\]: game>
ckg [-\]: please focus on the game
USSRMan [3d\]: o14?
myrtle [4d\]: m14 can get a ladder but i think w will still die
ganesha2 [2k\]: chuck norris is strongest 
BeefCake [4d\]: b+20
RobertT [-\]: calvin i gonna win
FirePrince [-\]: back
Wang1 [1d\]: game is so slow that we cannot concentrate on.
Megalodon [9d\]: no?
USSRMan [3d\]: white is pretty behind
USSRMan [3d\]: even with komi
myrtle [4d\]: i think you are too scary Megalodon
Petrosian [3k?\]: w owned. irl.
RobertT [-\]: I accept your challenge megalodon
AzureSea [4d\]: o.o
myrtle [4d\]: i accept it too :p
SColbert [4d\]: is auntie at ugc
AzureSea [4d\]: hm
myrtle [4d\]: but kghin is probably a more appropriate oppo
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
beispiel [9d?\]: Redmond speaks perfect English and almost perfect Japanese and is almost bicultural. However his go is a product of Japanese go.
SColbert [4d\]: myauntmary that is
RobertT [-\]: how many handicap do  you want megalodon?
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;W[gk]C[AzureSea [4d\]: still waiting on g9
USSRMan [3d\]: he also has a chinese wife
AzureSea [4d\]: called it xD
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;B[bk]C[uhjh: lol
SColbert [4d\]: any strong young american american player
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;W[ip]C[AzureSea [4d\]: once again correct :3
USSRMan [3d\]: what is american american?
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;B[mh]C[uhjh: ya andy liu
AzureSea [4d\]: hm
Snova1987a [10k\]: he means white american
uhjh: lol
rayheart [1d\]: xD
rayheart [1d\]: Non asian
uhjh: there are like none
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;W[dq]C[guapo [2k\]: he means non asian american
beispiel [9d?\]: technically, w can play c9 c10 b8 a10 and start a ko at a11 but....
uhjh: but in europe a lot more strong young non asian players
AzureSea [4d\]: d5?
SColbert [4d\]: yeah
lithograph [1k\]: he means racism
RobertT [-\]: I've beaten 8d giving 9 stones. so I guess I would be top american american
Thew [2d\]: lol
SColbert [4d\]: euro should be benchmark
AzureSea [4d\]: psychic xD
BeefCake [4d\]: is a2 out of the question?
uhjh: lol
beispiel [9d?\]: yes right, RobertT
Thew [2d\]: ko is out of the q
uhjh: what top 4 youths under 16 in america?
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;B[iq]C[Wang1 [1d\]: Russian players are so strong.
USSRMan [3d\]: black giving white a chance to win?
rayheart [1d\]: C9 A11?
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;W[jq]C[rayheart [1d\]: And alive?
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;B[ir]C[beispiel [9d?\]: Ah, as I mentioned much earlier - before m15 (which died), w will invade at j4 
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;W[hp]C[beispiel [9d?\]: B is wise to live
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;B[gq]
;W[ko]C[AzureSea [4d\]: hm
guapo [2k\]: n5
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;B[go]C[RobertT [-\]: why does it feel like b has way more territory than white?
Thew [2d\]: ew =p\\
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;W[hn]C[Merlot [1k\]: O6
AzureSea [4d\]: k2
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;B[gn]C[Petrosian [3k?\]: Because he does?
RobertT [-\]: k thx
beispiel [9d?\]: B is about 20 pnts behind
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;W[gm]C[SColbert [4d\]: in go trust your gut
Harbinger [4k\]: B is?
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;B[ho]C[saspurs [2d\]: ahead, he meant
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;W[in]C[Thew [2d\]: g5 is like squeezing for half an our to get a turd out =p
AzureSea [4d\]: lol
beispiel [9d?\]: I am sorry - of course WHITE is 20 pnts behind
AzureSea [4d\]: w desperate
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;B[fm]C[USSRMan [3d\]: well capturing j10 is pretty big
Harbinger [4k\]: these are pre resign moves me thinks?
guapo [2k\]: f6 g8
SColbert [4d\]: b top 40 pts
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;W[fn]C[AzureSea [4d\]: lot lol
SColbert [4d\]: bottom right 22
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;B[io]C[SColbert [4d\]: bottom left 5
uhjh: ah huz zi yang much better than this w
beispiel [9d?\]: o:O
SColbert [4d\]: left 2
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;W[jo]C[AzureSea [4d\]: suddenly w seems to have some.center.potentiL
beispiel [9d?\]: g8 h7 h8 next
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;B[gl]C[SColbert [4d\]: so 65 ish
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;W[hm]C[AzureSea [4d\]: hmm
beispiel [9d?\]: and w resigns
RobertT [-\]: you over counted all the areas @.@
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;B[hl]C[uhjh: gam so over
SColbert [4d\]: did I?
beispiel [9d?\]: I had almost 60 pnts
Wang1 [1d\]: oh w in trouble.
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;W[fl]
;B[fk]C[USSRMan [3d\]: this is too easy for black
AzureSea [4d\]: yesh
SColbert [4d\]: okay counting is not necessary
AzureSea [4d\]: yeah*
USSRMan [3d\]: white lost the center potential
Megalodon [9d\]: beispiel game?
AzureSea [4d\]: hm
gentoo [-\]: mega wants to break that 9d?
AzureSea [4d\]: xD
uhjh: lol cmon mega. let him keep that 9d
SColbert [4d\]: knock it out the park
KemoClaw [3k\]: what does black play if white k2?
AzureSea [4d\]: b+res
guapo [2k\]: if i were 9d i'd used private chat
USSRMan [3d\]: a1 lives
USSRMan [3d\]: a2
USSRMan [3d\]: ...
USGO1 [-\]: White has resigned
regigigas [5d\]: mega, give a guy some undeserved satisfacation
regigigas [5d\]: oops
SColbert [4d\]: b3 makes eye
USGO1 [-\]: They are now discussing the game.
regigigas [5d\]: GG
AzureSea [4d\]: called it
uhjh: gg
guapo [2k\]: what are they saying>?
SColbert [4d\]: thanks usgo
AzureSea [4d\]: xDo
AzureSea [4d\]: gg
uhjh: how much time di dhu zi yang use on this game?
Pvp [7k\]: w tenuki?
iamor [?\]: ok :)
USGO1 [-\]: You're welcome.
USGO1 [-\]: Just over 30 minutes
uhjh: lol
USSRMan [3d\]: resign in sente
neymarjr: j8
uhjh: what about calvin?
USGO1 [-\]: about an hour
uhjh: lol they play so fast
iamor [?\]: USSRMan: lol
USGO1 [-\]: Please visit USGO2 through 4 for other top table games
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